Madison Grant/Cromwell on race

[HoratioSeymour]

The other day, I heard Cromwell in a video mention Madison Grant, so I got curious. I've been reading Madison Grant's The Passing of the Great Race.

It's chilling to read him and see how perfectly he described the future. When he wrote about Italians, he wasn't just engaging in historical theory; he was issuing a direct warning to America.

He argued that by allowing millions of southern europeans in, we were importing the very traits that led to the decay of ancient Rome: emotional volatility, low impulse control, and a lack of the forward-thinking Northern European spirit. He saw that these people weren't just coming for a better life; they were coming because their own homelands were products of their own racial limitations.

Now look at our cities. Look at the crime rates, the political corruption, the decline in standards. Grant saw this coming a hundred years ago when the US began to define itself as a nation of immigrants. He also predicted that Black people would become a future social problem for the US.

What do you all think about this? For me, the problems are now much worse and I would obviously never even compare the immigrants coming now to the Italians, but I have noticed that what Cromwell calls "ethnic whites" do really still define themselves by their ethnicity such as Italian-American. Hell, even the Irish Catholics do that!

In the US, most Southern Whites are of English or British ancestry broadly, followed by German and Dutch.

I live in NYC, and I definitely notice differences between Italian whites and regular "anglo" americans.

Any thoughts?

[ZombieVampir]

I can't comment on American Day to Day life, However here in the UK we're starting to feel the effects of Unlimited Immigration. Especially our Welfare system and the NHS. Most of our Cultural shift is from Muslim Cultures. White British are just above half of Births.

Scotland has had less immigration than England, Halal food is still commonly served, Burkas are "normal" to see, I've started seeing Teenage and young adult Women wearing small headwear, usually a Bandana or similar. I'm assuming the last one is a Tiktok trend, Non Muslims here are not religious enough to Viel outside of Orthodox or Catholic Churches, They are usually breaking every other Tznuit rule if they're married Orthodox Jews, and I think some Pagans Veil.

I'm not mad at The Headwear, It's just interesting. Scottish traditional wear has something similar, but I haven't seen one in Tartan, let alone the Regional Tartan and nobody here cares about our Traditional Culture if it doesn't involve a Man in a Skirt.

I can't comment on the South Asian "Thugs and Gangs" thee British Right wing mentions as I live in a Historically Rough area

Although I am Ethnic White, I do Call myself Ulster-Scots, I haven't met many other Ulster-Scots, But there are noticeable differences between Scots and White Non-Scots.

[Casus_Conscientiae]

It might interest you to know that of all, there cannot be such things as biologically real and biologically objective human races other than discrete subspecies which are biologically, zoologically, and ontologically discontinuous from each other in every respect in which they are biologically, zoologically, and ontologically different from each other. I have discovered a truly remarkable proof of this theorem, in: viewtopic.php?t=103.

Note: By discontinuous I mean when a given multitude of things stands in such a relation to each other that on any side on which any two of the things in that given multitude differ from each other, there cannot be placed between these two any such third differing thing in that given multitude that the third such thing differs from each of the first two individually less than the first two differ from each other.

And the warning must be given over and over again, that identical efficient causes produce identical effects.

[HoratioSeymour]

I can't comment on American Day to Day life, However here in the UK we're starting to feel the effects of Unlimited Immigration. Especially our Welfare system and the NHS. Most of our Cultural shift is from Muslim Cultures. White British are just above half of Births.

Scotland has had less immigration than England, Halal food is still commonly served, Burkas are "normal" to see, I've started seeing Teenage and young adult Women wearing small headwear, usually a Bandana or similar. I'm assuming the last one is a Tiktok trend, Non Muslims here are not religious enough to Viel outside of Orthodox or Catholic Churches, They are usually breaking every other Tznuit rule if they're married Orthodox Jews, and I think some Pagans Veil.

I'm not mad at The Headwear, It's just interesting. Scottish traditional wear has something similar, but I haven't seen one in Tartan, let alone the Regional Tartan and nobody here cares about our Traditional Culture if it doesn't involve a Man in a Skirt.

I can't comment on the South Asian "Thugs and Gangs" thee British Right wing mentions as I live in a Historically Rough area

Although I am Ethnic White, I do Call myself Ulster-Scots, I haven't met many other Ulster-Scots, But there are noticeable differences between Scots and White Non-Scots.

How do you feel in general about the welfare system in Britain? Like do you feel it should remain and help British people only or? It´s a big debate here in the US, but personally, I'm actually not against welfare IF it helps local people only. A lot of American conservatives are more libertarian and hate social intervention, but I don't see it as a bad thing necessarily.

As for Ulster-Scots, here in the US there was a pretty strong presence of their descendants, still are in parts of the rural south. Me personally I can trace my ancestors to Germany and Britain though, but not Scotland specifically.

I was in the UK like 10 years ago, only in England though and back then I did notice the Muslim presence, but there were also loads of immigrants from the EU. How do you feel about EU immigrants specifically like Poles, Italians, Spanish, etc?